Should Prostitution Be Legalised?

[Neogen]

Holly Shit...

Yes this is my first reaction after reading this post. How can we think that prostitution should be legalized. My brain has simply farted after reading this thread and specially after reading in favor of legal prostitution.

I would completely agree to RO that The object is to stamp out prostitution and its pimps, not regulate it so that the State can make a profit from a woman's degradation, too.

But the big question is what to do with this whole bunch of pimps and whores. They are caught, jailed and once free, again you can find them engaged in their trade.

[dsha9]

RO

Yes English is my second language but dude atleast i know more than one language.

One thing you have to agree is what ever kind of society its is, no one can ever remove prostitutes. So your views of how to remove prostitution is not at all practical.

You are talking about homosexuals, aren't there male prostitutes, so donnot tell me about why aids is such a big problem. See atleast i bought something to prove & just because it proves you wrong you don't just say, "CBS? Golly, give me a break. CBS is no better than a propaganda machine". & Still you are on "Sexually transmitted diseases (STD) are on the increase world-wide among homosexuals, which include HIV/AIDS. I have no figures dealing with Indian homosexuals, but I bet they are a large part of that "84 percent" figure you mentioned." Stop giving your figures & Why are you more hated against women prostitutes, now there are large number of male prostitutes as well, & we are talking about prostitutes & prostitution not whores.

Dude please why are you questioning same thing again & again about destroying families, i have already replied to that so look at my previous post. So look at them.

See dude what you wright didnot make much of a sense to me, where did i contrdict my self?

"You're caught in your own contradiction, kid. You cannot have a moral society when that society allows immorality to flourish; it's an oxymoron; a paradox; a blatant incongruity. "

As far as i can understand you think it as a immoral thing, i donnot because you cannot prevent it, i am trying to accept the fact the protitution will always be there, & doing nothing about it can be more hazadious to me & my family.

Other than that
"Yopu are not thinking straight.

You are making excuses for th inexcusable.

The object is to stamp out prostitution and its pimps, not regulate it so that the State can make a profit from a woman's degradation, too. "

what are you trying to get at, you think legalising will mean, the state will just get profit out of it & nothing else, i donnot think that way, being a optimist i think better life & health will come to the sadist parts of the city.

One e.g i would like to give you, Prostitution in Australia is legal, today i know that it is the healthiest country in the world, with the best quality lifestyle anywhere else in the world.

[RebelliousOne]

[quote="dsha9"]RO

Yes English is my second language but dude atleast i know more than one language.

One thing you have to agree is what ever kind of society its is, no one can ever remove prostitutes. So your views of how to remove prostitution is not at all practical.

You are talking about homosexuals, aren't there male prostitutes, so donnot tell me about why aids is such a big problem. See atleast i bought something to prove & just because it proves you wrong you don't just say, "CBS? Golly, give me a break. CBS is no better than a propaganda machine". & Still you are on "Sexually transmitted diseases (STD) are on the increase world-wide among homosexuals, which include HIV/AIDS. I have no figures dealing with Indian homosexuals, but I bet they are a large part of that "84 percent" figure you mentioned." Stop giving your figures & Why are you more hated against women prostitutes, now there are large number of male prostitutes as well, & we are talking about prostitutes & prostitution not whores.

Dude please why are you questioning same thing again & again about destroying families, i have already replied to that so look at my previous post. So look at them.

See dude what you wright didnot make much of a sense to me, where did i contrdict my self?

"You're caught in your own contradiction, kid. You cannot have a moral society when that society allows immorality to flourish; it's an oxymoron; a paradox; a blatant incongruity. "

As far as i can understand you think it as a immoral thing, i donnot because you cannot prevent it, i am trying to accept the fact the protitution will always be there, & doing nothing about it can be more hazadious to me & my family.

Other than that
"Yopu are not thinking straight.

You are making excuses for th inexcusable.

The object is to stamp out prostitution and its pimps, not regulate it so that the State can make a profit from a woman's degradation, too. "

what are you trying to get at, you think legalising will mean, the state will just get profit out of it & nothing else, i donnot think that way, being a optimist i think better life & health will come to the sadist parts of the city.

One e.g i would like to give you, Prostitution in Australia is legal, today i know that it is the healthiest country in the world, with the best quality lifestyle anywhere else in the world.[/quote]

dsha9:

Because English is not your native language, I will make a special effort to understand what you are attempting to say; and I will ask you, periodically, to clarify your ideas when I do not grasp the point you are trying to make. However, do not assume that I am insulting, denigrating or degrading you; quite the contrary, really. I want to know what you are thinking; but unless we can communicate in a language that is understandable to the both of us, we accomplish nothing. Now, please, let us reason together; okay?

Yes, I agree that prostitution cannot be eliminated; it is, after all, the world's oldest profession; but no, my proposed means of reducing prostitution are not impractical; a little radical, yes, but not impractical; indeed, if one wishes to stomp out a particular crime, one does so, and resists the impulse to "regulate" the crime for the monetary benefit of the state.

Yes, there are males prostitutes, but the statistics show that among the homosexual "community," the rate of AID/HIVS, and other STD, are at epidenmic proportions; even higher than the rates recorded among the world's prostitutes.

It saddens me that you have no figures dealing with Indian homosexuals. It shows that your research is incomplete.

You may call them prostitutes; but I call them what they are -- whores. Cheap and common women who sell their bodies for profit. Is there anything lower in life, other than a homosexual?

The figures I brought up are applicable to the STD in the US and nowhere else. I do not grasp your point on this issue. In India, it may be the whores who are spreading AID/HIV the most, but in the US and western Europe, it is the homosexuals and intravenous drug users who make up the vast majority of such cases. Would you suggest that we "regulate" them; better yet, would you suggest how we can regulate them?

Compared to female prostitutes, male prostitute are an insignificant number. Get real; okay?

You have not made an acceptable reply to my charge that whores break up families. I don't know about India, but in the US, whores and sluts (may I add that category?) contribute more than their share to broken homes. Believe it or not, whether the guy buys it or seduces it, adultery is still adultery; and it takes a lose woman to contribute to adultery -- just as it takes a lose man; but had the woman not been available, the man would never have had the capacity to commit his act of adultery.

Golly, I guess we are agreed, then. One cannot have a moral society when that society permits immorality; all the more reason to stamp out the immoral practice of prostitution; right?

Whether I can or cannot prevent an immoral act does not alter the fact that that act is still immoral. What is your point?

No one is saying to do nothing about prostitution; indeed, it is you who would legalize it so that any adulterer can cheat on his wife. I, on the other hand, would punish prostitution as the serious crime that it is. Under which of our systems would the practice of adultery flourish the most -- or the least; humm?

Yes, if prostitution is "legalized," the state will make a profit from the certifications, licenses and permits that the whores will have to buy to practice their trade. Wake up, kid; more than just the "Johns" will pay to put whores on your street corner; after a while, you'll pay their medical bills (HIV/AIDS, et cetera).

Prostitution is not legal in Australia; it's legal in Holland; and the STD rate there is skyrocketing.

Look, one does not eliminate a problem by letting people wallow in their sin. One does not eliminate prostitution by legalizing it. One does not rid society of homosexuality by legalizing it. One does not rid his community of murderers by legalizing murder, or rape, or robbery or fornication.

Your message -- thinking -- makes no sense at all. You do not rid society of a plague by allowing the plague to proliferate -- to spread under the color of law; all that does is allow the plague to spread.

So, please, what is your point>?

RO

[Ettina]

Here's my view on legalising prostitution: don't. For the sake of prostitutes, stamp it out! 60-90% of prostitutes were sexualy abused before they became prostitutes. Sexually abused people often feel shame about their bodies, terror of sex, and like they are free for the taking, sexually. I was sexually abused, and although I'm lucky that they found out about it early and stopped it and got me counseling, I hate my body, especially my genitals, and I am absolutely terrified of sex. Unlike many abused women I do not feel like anyone has the right to use me sexually unless I also enjoy it. Prostitution is degrading. Your body is no longer yours, it's a commodity to sell to others, so they can "rent" it and use it as they wish. The one good thing about legalising prostitution is that it will hopefully get rid of the abuses that aren't inherent to prostitution, like murder of prostitutes and so on, but it is still degrading. And I do not approve of calling them "whores". They are people. They are usually young women or girls who are poor, often homeless, and turn to prostitution so that they can EAT. Or get "befriended" and tricked by pimps and once they realise what he has planned for them, there's no way out. That's another thing. You talk about "whores" as if they choose to go back to it after getting arrested. Some may, for the same desperate reasons they started, but most do not. They are forced back into prostitution. Pimps often kill prostitutes if they try to leave. Pimps also try to encourage drug addiction, because it further traps the prostitute, because she needs to get drug money. And yes, a small minority of prostitutes are men. I don't know much about the situation of male prostitutes, but it is probably not much better. You say that homosexuals have a higher incidence of STDs than prostitutes. I would like you to tell me where you are getting that from.

[Matt]

Hi Ettina,

First of all welcome to Gutfeel. Hope you will find this place useful to express yourself freely.

I have been very closely following the debate happening here, and its clear that this is one of most complex and deep rooted issue that our society is facing. Some say, its because of abuse people are drawn are into this, while the other school of thought says that its quick and cheap money that pulls people inside this web. Can understand that none of the groups would have been enjoying this. My suggestion would be divide this issue into two thinking and then debate around:
1) Peole who are drawn due to abuse and
2) People who are into this just because of quick money

Ettina, I can understand you emtions, and hopefully you would also understand that this has been a problem.

So lets debate, what should be the solution, rather than beating around the problem.

My 2 cents.

Matt-

[Editor]

Hi Ettina,

Welcome to the forum! Hope u njoy the healthy discussions at Gutfeel.com..

Great that you expressed your views on the issue. You have rightfully said that most of the women who enter prostitution are just looking for survival as they need something to eat. But for sure they are people and legalizing it will definately help them. Let's for a sec keep aside the issue that how these girls get into it...but once they are in this terrible business of selling their bodies, how can the society help them? This i swhat we are talking about...

As you said that this would reduce crime against them and also stopping people to take undue advantage of them...these can be reason enough to legalize prostitution..your take