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Is doctor criminally liable if patient dies due to error?
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Neogen
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that the negligient doctors shoud be punished and should be criminally liable. I am citing a case which showcases the extreme of a doctor's negligence and the also he is roaming free. My gutfeel is that his practice licence should be suspended and he should face criminal charges. What do you say?
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CANTON, Ohio (AP) -- Relatives of a woman whose surgeon left a rolled-up towel inside her chest have filed a lawsuit against the clinic where the surgery was performed.

Bonnie Valle often complained about an odd feeling in her chest in the years following a procedure at the Cleveland Clinic, family members said.

"She always said, 'On the left side, it feels like there's something there. It felt like something moved,"' said her daughter, Jeanne Clark.

Doctors told Valle the symptoms reflected the progression of her emphysema and that the benefits of the surgery would not last forever, Clark said.

Valle, a former nurse's aide, came to the Cleveland Clinic for lung-reduction surgery in October 1995. Smoking nearly two packs of cigarettes a day since the age of 15 had left her with emphysema and dependent on a constant supply of oxygen, Clark said.

When she died in June 2002, a day after her 60th birthday, Valle donated her body to the Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine. During dissection, a faculty member discovered a green surgical cloth the size of a large hand towel behind her left lung.

Clark filed a lawsuit last week seeking unspecified damages against the clinic and her mother's Canton-based physician, Jeffrey Miller. The lawsuit contends the towel produced costly complications and ultimately caused her mother's death.

"Her body was literally growing around it, trying to isolate it," said Clark's attorney, Mark Okey. "It's a foreign object, and her body was trying to fight it off."

Cleveland Clinic spokesman Cole Hatcher said the hospital had not seen the lawsuit yet and does not comment on pending litigation. Dr. Thomas J. Kirby, who performed the surgery, is no longer with the clinic.

A message left seeking comment from Miller was not immediately returned Friday.

In a letter to the medical school, Miller wrote that he did not think the towel affected the duration or quality of Valle's life.

"She lived seven years ... which is certainly as well as one would have expected her to survive given her severe emphysema and poor pulmonary function and overall condition," Miller wrote.
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RebelliousOne
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:33 am    Post subject: Slice, Dice and Sue Reply with quote

Matt wrote:
The point of discussion is that if the patient dies during the surgery is the doctor liable.

In my opinion, every operation should be recorded using a video camera if possible. This evidence can be used(if unfortunately the patient dies) in case of judging whether it was doctor's fault or not, whether it was gross negligence or the situation was not under doctor's control.

I agree that doctor is not God but in case it is found that it was gross negligence, he or she can be tried in the criminal court.


Matt:

Why would you try a civil matter in a criminal court? Why would you make an error in judgement (if such is the case) into a crinminal intend to do the victim harm?

There are no guarantees in this life. More to the point, anytime someone allows another person to cut him open, the chances of dying are increased by a hundred fold.

I have experienced my share of operations, and in each and every case, I was informed of the chances of success -- and failure; and I nevertheless allowed that surgeon to do what he felt he had to do to keep me alive and healthy.

Human beings make mistakes, regardless of their training or IQs; and in addition, even if the surgeon makes no mistakes at all, the patient can still die due to a number of reasons, including just giving up the will to live.

No, when two people agree that the other one can cut the first one open and play around inside his body, I cannot accept "absolute liability" for the doctor. There are just too many things that can go wrong -- unless, of course, the survivors can show that the doctor was negligent or criminally incompetent; but then, the patient should have gotten a second or even a third opinion before going under the knife.

I cannot accept your reasoning because you put all responsibility on the shoulders of the doctor; and that isn't fair. If the patient wants a guarantee, let him put his fate into the hands of God; otherwise, let him be fully aware of the chances he takes whenever he undergos a surgical procedure.

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